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News: DMN: Observations from Day 5 of Cowboys training camp practice

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  1. WoodysGirl

    WoodysGirl Everything is everything... Staff Member

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    Brandon George / Reporter

    bgeorge@dallasnews.com | Bio
    7:45 PM on Mon., Aug. 1, 2011 | Permalink

    Here's what I saw from the fifth day of the Cowboys' training camp practices Monday from the Alamodome in San Antonio:

    • With Tuesday scheduled off, Monday's afternoon practice was the team's most physical yet. Players were being knocked to the ground more and some of the hits had that loud, popping noise that excited the fans. One of the biggest hits came when LB Isaiah Greenhouse leveled RB Phillip Tanner of Kimball.

    • Starting kicker David Buehler and undrafted rookie free agent Dan Bailey (Oklahoma State) each went 4-for-4 on field goal attempts. But Buehler out-performed Bailey on kickoffs. Buehler's kickoffs sailed high and deep, while Bailey's were shorter and more knuckle balls.

    Read the rest: http://cowboysblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2011/08/observations-from-day-5-of-cow.html
  2. Meat-O-Rama

    Meat-O-Rama Vegetarians are so stupid.

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    Stuff like this excites me.
  3. Cowboy4ever

    Cowboy4ever Well-Known Member

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    i really like the competitive nature of this camp. Players diving into the endzone, players running down other players from behind stripping the ball, etc. I was at camp last year and it was ho hum. I will be there Saturday and I am juiced to see this team compete.
  4. Risen Star

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    Not good.
  5. DanTanna

    DanTanna Original Zone Member Zone Supporter

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    It would really suck to keep two kickers again!
  6. Hoofbite

    Hoofbite Well-Known Member

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    Yeah but it would suck worse to keep 1 and have piss poor kick offs or shanked field goals all year.

    I don't like 2 kickers but if that's what has to happen, that's what has to happen.
  7. Idgit

    Idgit Ice up, son. Ice up! Staff Member

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    I'm going to go out on a limb and say this guy makes this team outright.
  8. Risen Star

    Risen Star Likes Collector Zone Supporter

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    So we keep 4 RBs?
  9. Muhast

    Muhast Newo

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    You thinking he beats out one of the top 3? Or more along the lines of knocks Lonyae Miller off the PS?
  10. Eskimo

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    Maybe we could trade Choice for a 5th or 6th round pick.
  11. Muhast

    Muhast Newo

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    • Rookie CB Josh Thomas (Buffalo/Cedar Hill) missed an open-field tackle on WR Kevin Ogletree on a quick out. Ogletree took it all the way for a 60-yard touchdown in team drills.

    Ogletree looks like someone lit a fire in him this off-season.He has been killing it every day!
  12. Temo

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    They did change the kickoff rule to the 35-yard line for this year, so Buehler's leg is slightly less important than it might have been last year.
  13. Muhast

    Muhast Newo

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    Instead of kicking TB's, teams want to kick off high and let the ball hang (like a punt to an extent) to get the coverage team down field to pin the team around their own 15 yardline.

    They say Beuhler's are hanging and getting right to the spots, and Baileys are almost line drive "and flat"
  14. speedkilz88

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    :facepalm: This is a myth that media and ignorant fans keep repeating. This actually works to Buehler's advantage. Most kickers are still going to struggle to get touchbacks or hang it up high to the goalline. The new rule change is actually the way it use to be in the 90's.
  15. Hoofbite

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    I think only about 10 kickers averaged 65 yards per kick off last season.

    Strong legs are definitely in play.
  16. StanleySpadowski

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    It makes it even more important. A kicker who can nab 75% touchbacks is going to allow a team to make decisions based on positional play rather than special teams, strengthening the depth.
  17. Hostile

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  18. Dale

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    I agree, speedkilz. If Bailey is getting them to the 3 with the rule change, while Buehler's sail five yards into the end zone, that's a major difference. And by the sounds of things, we don't want Bailey kicking off given his training camp performance. This really smells like a two-kicker job, as much of a wasted roster spot as that may seem to some.
  19. CowboyMcCoy

    CowboyMcCoy Business is a Boomin

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    I agree. Go for the distance and hang time....much worth it. Buehler is a beast.
  20. 67CowboysFan

    67CowboysFan New Member

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    I watched a short interview with him the other day. The way he said " because I'm young" gave me the feeling someone explained things to him and got the message across that the time is now or never. I still think this guy is gonna do good things for our team.

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