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News: ESPN NFCE: Is the Cowboys' defense just not good?

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  1. WoodysGirl

    WoodysGirl Everything is everything... Staff Member

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    By Dan Graziano

    Tim MacMahon of ESPNDallas.com has a column up, and it's about the Dallas Cowboys' defense. Specifically, it's about first-year defensive coordinator Rob Ryan, who Tim says is struggling to coach something out of the same cast of characters that helped get the previous coach and defensive coordinator, Wade Phillips, fired a little more than a year ago.


    [IMG]Tim's hypothesis is that maybe it's not the fault of the coach or the scheme in Dallas, but that maybe we've all been overrating the players the Cowboys have on the defensive side of the ball:
    The truth is that this defense has three cornerstone players -- outside linebacker DeMarcus Ware, nose tackle Jay Ratliff and inside linebacker Sean Lee -- and a whole bunch of question marks. Throw a dart at the defensive depth chart and you're pretty much guaranteed to hit a draft need.
    Cornerback Mike Jenkins has first-round talent and deserves credit for fighting through injuries all season, but he's on-again, off-again. Outside linebacker Anthony Spencer, another former first-round pick, has flashes of brilliance that are lost in long stretches of mediocrity.
    Read the rest: http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/post/_/id/34005/is-the-cowboys-defense-just-not-good
  2. Flinger

    Flinger Active Member

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    Ding, ding, ding, ding....
  3. CCBoy

    CCBoy Well-Known Member

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    And cutting to the chase:

    'The theory behind hiring Ryan was that the Cowboys underachieved on defense last season and needed a fresh voice to coax the talent out of all the talented players they already had in place. And while he's been able to get something out of Spencer and Jenkins (and, earlier in the season, Newman) that wasn't there a year ago, Tim's right that none of those guys is playing at a star-caliber level. Can they the rest of the way? Sure. We've seen it before for brief stretches with some of these same guys. But once this is all over, it seems the Cowboys are going to have to make some more serious and sober assessments of just what exactly they do have on defense.'
  4. bbailey423

    bbailey423 Well-Known Member

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    all of this may be true. But you held the Giants to 20 points for the first 55 mins. And then gave up 15 points in 5 mins. Sometimes you have to WILL your way to get what you want. I rememer them saying that about Jordan all of the time when he was off early in the game. He would WILL shots in to get a victory. Giving up that many points with 5 mins left is a CHOKE job!
  5. CCBoy

    CCBoy Well-Known Member

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    And on consecutive weekends it's more than choke. But if one throws in the Jets, Lions, and then the Giants....that is entirely different yet.
  6. burmafrd

    burmafrd Well-Known Member

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    We have three top players. Great defenses have 5 or 6. Or make up for it with a couple of very good players.

    Realistically we need 1 more top guy in the secondary at any position; one more LB and one more DL.
  7. Flinger

    Flinger Active Member

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    You may be right... but, right now, the overall talent simply isn't there...
  8. ThreeSportStar80

    ThreeSportStar80 Benched

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    BINGO... He wins the prize for the most obvious answer.
  9. Cowboys&LakersFan

    Cowboys&LakersFan Benched

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    We have 2 top players Ware and Lee. Anyways this defense just isn't very good. Terrible secondary and no pass rush outside of Ware. It seems almost weekly that the D-line is dominated. We need improvements period.
  10. MichaelWinicki

    MichaelWinicki "You want some?" Staff Member

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    As others have said, the overall talent simply isn't there on defense.
  11. Seven

    Seven Messenger to the football Gods

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    It seems to be the entire NFC east, IMO.
  12. Gameover

    Gameover Well-Known Member

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    McMahon, the problem is, are "cornerstone" defenders, are overvalued.
  13. Cowboys&LakersFan

    Cowboys&LakersFan Benched

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    Ware and Lee are overvalued? :laugh2:
  14. Gameover

    Gameover Well-Known Member

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    Correct
  15. Cowboys&LakersFan

    Cowboys&LakersFan Benched

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    How are they overhauled? They're 2 of the best defensive players in the league.
  16. Dash28

    Dash28 Felis silvestris catus

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    Incorrect.

    "our"
  17. burmafrd

    burmafrd Well-Known Member

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    he desperately crawled towards the fort gate; the lookouts spotted him and sent out help.


















    He had been hit with 3 arrows, one in the chest. He was just about dead.





















    he managed to gasp out























    The Cowboys Defense is weak!
























    and then he died
  18. LeonDixson

    LeonDixson Illegitimi non carborundum

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    :lmao2::lmao:
  19. dalexa1824

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    We failed to address this in free agency. The need was o bvious. We had money but Jerry failed to " get it done.":bang2:
  20. Boys4Life

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    There is a lack of talent for any team that has a roster spot for Alan Ball for this long.

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